dect phone with ip: something that works with Loxone?

[J V]

Hello,

It looks like I may be in the market for a new home phone, and am thinking of one with added VOIP functionality. This made me wonder if there are any phones that offer some integration possibilities with the Loxone, as the phone itself could double nicely as a control panel for the smarthome.

I have found a few dect phones that run Android (Siemens, Philips), but the tend to run older android versions that are not compatible with the latest Loxone app. There are some IP phones that runs their own system: FritzFon looks somewhat interesting (but not android, so I'm not sure how much can be integrated), but it is unclear to me how many of the functionality is kept when you do not have a FritzBox (and my router is fairly recent and not up for replacement at this time). Siemens has some models that offer VOIP functionality but I'm not sure if they offer much integration with other systems. I also know that e.g. Invoxia has a landline/wifi bridge, which turns your mobile into a handset for the landline, but that sort of misses my point (I would prefer a device that is virtually always plugged in).

Perhaps there no point on looking for this, and the best option is just to go with a regular DECT phone and a cheap tablet or mobile, but I wanted to double check here beforehand.

So, any suggestions or options?

Thanks,


Jörg

[J V]

So far, my searches show up empty. The only thing that may be something, are the Gigaset phones which have support for small apps (just getting data from a webserver), and which allow you to define your own. So it may be possible to display something on the screen by defining the Miniserver as the source of the data, and having some variable with the data. But other than that, I haven't really found much.

I have found that there are landline phones that support bluetooth to make them function as a handset for your mobile phone, so you can answer your mobile phone using the landline phone (Panasonic, Philips and VTech have such models). I suspect this would also allow it to be used as a handset for a pc, in which case the handset could be used for Skype, sip or any other service that uses a microphone/speaker. I'm now thinking if this is not more beneficial than the VOIP functionality: my music server is usually on when I'm home and I could just have it paired with the handset so I'm available on skype/sip (e.g. ). But I cannot find any success stories (or horror stories) on doing that. Anyone here tried that?

Jörg

[Gast]

So far, my searches show up empty. The only thing that may be something, are the Gigaset phones which have support for small apps (just getting data from a webserver), and which allow you to define your own. So it may be possible to display something on the screen by defining the Miniserver as the source of the data, and having some variable with the data. But other than that, I haven't really found much.

I have found that there are landline phones that support bluetooth to make them function as a handset for your mobile phone, so you can answer your mobile phone using the landline phone (Panasonic, Philips and VTech have such models). I suspect this would also allow it to be used as a handset for a pc, in which case the handset could be used for Skype, sip or any other service that uses a microphone/speaker. I'm now thinking if this is not more beneficial than the VOIP functionality: my music server is usually on when I'm home and I could just have it paired with the handset so I'm available on skype/sip (e.g. ). But I cannot find any success stories (or horror stories) on doing that. Anyone here tried that?

Jörg

Sorry, I wish I could help. I did some search on that when I moved. I have a Fritzbox but made the mistake of buying an expensive Gigaset DX800A. Not only half the features are not compatible with the Fritzbox, it's also not worth half the money I paid for it. I am however curious what you come up with. I liked the idea of being able to interface loxone with the phone.

One useful thing would be to get it to show whoever rings my Loxone Intercom and allow me to unlock the door from the phone. That would be awesome.

[duncan]

one possible solution is to use a home mini pbx server box such as the grandstream ucm6102 along with voip soft phones on your mobile phones

http://www.grandstream.com/products/ip-pbxs/ucm-series-ip-pbxs/product/ucm6200-series

you can connect your pots landlines to the system and answer incoming land or mobile phones on your mobile phones, make outgoing landline calls from your mobile
you already have your mobile with the loxone app and push notifications for video/door bell etc so everything is on one device

you already have mobile phones and chargers

if you wanted a 'home phone' then use a cheap android phone with wireless charging cradle (or the same for an iphone with wireless charging backpack) and no sim in it
you can connect wifi/network sip video phones and use these to view video from doorbell and security cameras
there are wifi ip phones available, but they are expensive:

http://www.voipon.co.uk/wireless-ip-phones-c-148.html

[J V]

pmatos: I was looking at the FritzFon, but am not sure many of its functionalities remain when it is not paired with a Fritxbox...
Duncan: problem is that those things are overkill for my application. I only use my landline to be called, and even that is not that frequent. Invoxia also has a low cost landline->wifi bridge (99 eur), which allows you to use your mobile to answer the landline or call with it. The first problem I have with such things is: when you use your phone for everything, when do you charge it? :-) The second one is: as I don't use the landline often, is it worth that cost?

Ideal would be something like this Panasonic, it could serve as the normal remote for e.g. my living room (to control lights, music, video, thermostats; which I all put in the Loxone interface), be always charged and be readily available. But it runs android 4.0. Philips and Gigaset both have similar models; the dect phone with the highest android version is an AEG, which has 4.2, still too low for the latest Loxone app. Its main use in my situation would actually not be DECT phone, but rather central wireless control panel, with a nice looking dock. But due to their low android version, they fall short for the Loxone app. And at the prices of those, I could get a cheap DECT phone and a cheap mobile phone (e.g. some Alcatel Pixi, which runs Android 6) or even small tablet, use it just as a control device and achieve the same functionality (minus the nice dock, but some phone holder or stands can be found). But that of course begs the question: why bother with the cheap phone/tablet anyway when I can use the phone I have?

So I'm not seeing many options for something that works with the Loxone at this time. I will try if some alternative Android browser properly works with the Loxone web interface, as that may redeem those devices somewhat, but it is looking less likely that it would be convenient and not very future-proof. So not sure if I would go that route even if I could find a browser that properly renders the loxone interface on Android.

I may be getting more interested in some voip support (changing work situation), so am now looking more at optimizing those aspects and just forgetting about the Loxone integration. So I'm looking at the Gigaset CL750A GO Sculpture (the phone is in quite a visible place, and most are very ugly), which support SIP and some web services (display only), or something that doubles as a bluetooth set for a mobile phone (in the hope it could be used with a PC to answer voip calls, but again that would be taking a small risk - this might not work and would require a powered on pc).

[Gast]

We always work with the Snom D765 phone for integration with Loxone in multiple ways, to send events to Loxone (e.g. on incoming call or calling out, mute the music playing in the room) , to manage the phone (e.g. put in DND when nobody present, making the calls divert directly to another phone), to display data from Loxone ( e.g. room temperature), to send actions to Loxone directly from shortcut function keys (e.g. switch lighting and heating to work mode), as an indoor intercom monitor and to create some UI for parts of Loxone functionality via the 'Minibrowser'

Also have a look at my old article for the older Snom 821 http://www.smartbusinesstools.be/blo...ideo-monitor-7

With any of the VoIP phones running on Android, that I tested before, it was not possible to use the handset with the Loxone Intercom app. So I did not find a solution that offers all: Android to run the Loxone app, good audio quality, and integration of the phone events,actions,buttons, screen in Loxone.

[Gast]

Also check this tread in the Loxone English Google Group https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...k/PjqVYSGqAQAJ

[J V]

Very interesting... A bit too expensive for my purpose, but very good to know that such things are possible.