Floor plan new house - Advice for Loxone component placement

[Gast]

Hello everyone, we have chosen to implement Loxone for our new home. I am currently looking at the most optimal placement of sensors and buttons. Looking for advice here too .

I already made a plan on placement of the components. I added these below, including some open questions. I left objects related to ventilation and lighting on the plan so you can see how everything is aligned with each other.
Small explanation:
- Blue circles are ventilation valves
- Small green circles are lighting spots
- Other green lines are LED strips
- The Loxone motion sensors are moss green ovals with a cross in the middle
- The Loxone (or other) touch buttons are moss green squares near some of the doors

1. Basement
- Loxone Touch buttons in hallway and desk. In the technical space a regular push button.
- Sensors in all rooms, with the exception of the tecnical area
=> There might be a physical separation of the rooms in the future, thats whay so many sensors

2. First floor
- Loxone Touch Pure buttons near every door, with the exception of the toilet, the stash room next to the kitchen and the terrace
=> Would you place more Touch buttons in other places?
- Sensors in all rooms
=> Low wall where the desk on the south side is, so 1 sensor is sufficient there
=> Is it useful to have a sensor at the main entrance outside?
=> Would you also place the sensors in the living room like this? Maybe best to leave some more space between them and move the most southern sensor closer to the southern window.



3. Upper floor
- Motion sensors in each room
- Touch buttons at each door + at the bed in our bedroom
=> Would you place a sensor on each side of the bed?
=> In the other rooms I would foresee a regular push button near the bed to switch / dim the lights. Good idea?



Loxone miniserver will be placed in the garage.

Currently I use the Tree cable for the motion sensors.

I am also looking into a solution for Audio / streaming. We currently use 2 Sonos Play devices and I am ready with these. Since we have room in the ceiling, I was thinking to start switching over to in-ceiling speakers. The Sonos in-ceiling speakers are very expensive however, for the many I can buy multiple decent speakers from other vendors. Since I did not invest into Sonos that much yet, the Loxone Audio Server is still an option (max 6 zones). Would anyone recommend the Loxone Audio Server? Any good experiences with streaming?

If there are things you would do differently => shoot! Open to suggestions for improvements.

[Gast]

In fact, it's a little strange that such responsible things as a house plan are being decided here. The most favorable option for you is to go to some kind of home plan and design firm. When it's decided face to face, believe me, it all looks different. I can recommend boutiquehomeplans.com from my side, I contacted them when I had a similar problem. I received good advice and several solutions. In fact - it`s not as easy as it may seem at first, I also thought at first I could do it on my own. So, I ended up making some mistakes that I did manage to solve. That's why, advise you to seek qualified help.

[loxforum]

because then why do we need people, for example, in design?

I simply can't agree with this statement. If you have enough base skills in an area, let's say design for example, it might be worth learning the details yourself to execute the planning. For example, I considered hiring a professional for interior design, this would have cost me 100k+ for my flat. However, I knew that I have some design skills myself and in the end I'm going to make the decisions myself anyway. So I learned the interior design basics from reading a few books and online tutorials, in the end I'm pretty happy with the results, and it maybe cost me a third to execute everything, even including the opportunity cost since I'm a professional in my field as well and could have done some customer projects instead.

And truth be told, specialists aren't so specialized when it comes to very opinionated matters such as interior design or how to lay out your smart home appliances. Of course, there are guidelines which can be followed, but you can acquire them by doing your own research as well.

The matter is of course different in areas where there is more or less one correct way to execute things, or where leaning how to do XYZ would exceed the saved time/money. Let's say furniture for example, I probably could build some nice furniture if I learn how to do it a couple of years, but it's just not worth the time effort for me. Or doing the painting, I know I can do it, but my time is worth more than the painter's time.

[Gast]

You can try to cope with this task yourself. If you study several articles and understand the rules for placing objects in space, you can place all the sensors and buttons in the right place. However, it is better to contact specialists when it comes to more important parts of the house. When I was just building my future home project, I decided that it was necessary to hire specialising in surveying residential properties and valuation. And I didn't regret spending money on it, because I was sure that my house would stand and my grandchildren would run around it. Therefore, you should not skimp on people who understand the case better than you.

[Gast]

Again many assumptions were made here ...
The placement of lighting and ventilation have been put on the plan by specialists in their field. Taking into account all the tips I learned from them and reading a lot about it (+ including some logical thinking), I am pretty sure I can place some sensors in places that are most efficient for our use cases. The plan was also validated by an external vendor.

I came to this forum to get some tips of people who are experienced with Loxone and how they would handle the things I highlighted. There might be things that you would have done differently afterwards.

Seems I was mistaken. Luckily I found some groups were people were pretty helpful so I will check there in the future.

[Christian Fenzl]

I'm sorry that you are offended. This is more a Loxone forum than electric planning guide forum.

What you requested, I do on plans of family and friends, to study them several hours together with them. You cannot expect that all the members study your entire plans to give advises. Therefore, good that you have found such resources.

If your questions get more specific, you will have a good place with that forum. But don't blame the users have not invested their time to work in into your house planning.

[joannejones]

I noticed your post from a year ago about your floor plan and Loxone component placement. It's great that you chose Loxone for your new home! Here are some suggestions based on your floor plan:
Basement: Place Loxone Touch buttons in the hallway and desk, and sensors in all rooms except the technical area.
First floor: Install Touch buttons near every door except the toilet, stash room, and terrace. Consider adding more Touch buttons if needed. Place sensors in all rooms, including one at the main entrance outside. Adjust sensor placement in the living room for better spacing.
Upper floor: Use motion sensors in each room. Install Touch buttons at each door and near the bed in your bedroom.
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[lordcaliente6]

Congrats on your new house! When it comes to placing your Loxone components, think about how you'll use each space. For example, if you love gardening, you might want to place sensors in the garden to monitor soil moisture or outside lights for evening ambiance. In the kitchen, consider where you'll need light switches and smart plugs for appliances. In the living room, think about where you'll want to control the entertainment system or set up mood lighting. It's all about making your life easier and more enjoyable, so place things where they'll be most convenient for you. Trust your instincts and enjoy planning your smart home setup!