12V trigger?

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  • tnagpal.
    Smart Home'r
    • 11.05.2019
    • 90

    #1

    12V trigger?

    Is there a way to have a 12V trigger for music and doorbell functionality (hardware and software)? The auto mode on the Dayton multichannel doesn't always succeed.
  • hme0354
    MS Profi
    • 06.07.2019
    • 970

    #2
    What PC do you use?
    Smarthome: 1x Miniserver Gen. 2, 3x Relay Extensions, 1x Tree Extension, 1x DI-Extension, 1x Air Base Extension, 8x RGBW Tree Dimmer, 9x Touch-Tree, 1x Nano DI Tree, 10x Tree BWM
    Technik: IDM Aero SLM 3-11 mit HGL, MS4H mit 9 Zonen, 2x Loxberry, 2x RPI für Anzeige, Doorbird, Froggit WH2600, POE+ System für Peripherie, Gedad Luftgütesensoren, Deconz (Bridge + 2x BWM + 2x RGBW + 5 Smartplug)

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    • Labmaster
      Lox Guru
      • 20.01.2017
      • 2585

      #3
      You could use a analog output of the miniserver or a relay output switching 24V.
      You could even use a external I/O option, like USB, LAN, WLAN, whatever is able to be controller by the Minisever to switch on/off a voltage source from 7V to 30V should work on the dayton as trigger input.

      Note:
      Even if 3V is stated for the Dayton 1240, on my amps 7V min. was needed to get the unit switched on.
      Zuletzt geändert von Labmaster; 12.01.2020, 16:54.

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      • tnagpal.
        Smart Home'r
        • 11.05.2019
        • 90

        #4
        Using a Thinkpad T440S. The Qotom PC I had before put out a ton of interference.

        I think a relay may make sense. The miniserver and the audio rack live on opposite sides of the room, so I was kind of hoping to have the laptop trigger the amps, especially since I don't use the Loxone app for music mostly (just Spotify Connect 90% of the time).

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        • hme0354
          MS Profi
          • 06.07.2019
          • 970

          #5
          You can use a WLAN relay and an external powersupply with 12V. There are WLAN or LAN relays which can be triggered per UDP or http.
          Zuletzt geändert von hme0354; 12.01.2020, 19:12.
          Smarthome: 1x Miniserver Gen. 2, 3x Relay Extensions, 1x Tree Extension, 1x DI-Extension, 1x Air Base Extension, 8x RGBW Tree Dimmer, 9x Touch-Tree, 1x Nano DI Tree, 10x Tree BWM
          Technik: IDM Aero SLM 3-11 mit HGL, MS4H mit 9 Zonen, 2x Loxberry, 2x RPI für Anzeige, Doorbird, Froggit WH2600, POE+ System für Peripherie, Gedad Luftgütesensoren, Deconz (Bridge + 2x BWM + 2x RGBW + 5 Smartplug)

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          • tnagpal.
            Smart Home'r
            • 11.05.2019
            • 90

            #6
            Is there a clean way to have MS4L fire the trigger instead of having Loxone do it? (as I mentioned, I often bypass the Loxone interface for music and just Spotify Connect directly).

            Ideally I could have multiple triggers since I am using multiple amplifiers.

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            • Labmaster
              Lox Guru
              • 20.01.2017
              • 2585

              #7
              MS4L has the global settings under "PowerManager" in "Settings->PowerManager", there you do the global setup for the power management
              Additionally at "Settings -> PlayerIntern -> Player bearbeiten" you setup the Virtual Inputs for each single player.

              With this the Miniserver gets the Power Information for each single Player as wirtual Input.
              With a Miniserver logic you could then create a signal to drive one or more relays that can switch a amps on/off.

              How the amps is then switch, is on you.
              As mentioned you could use a lan or Wifi Relay or a USB relay card connected to the MS4L Server.
              Using a USB Relay card on the MS4L would require some script programming at the MS4L for getting the usb relay cards remote controlled by the miniserver.

              In one of the next MS4L version some support for this might be already implemented, to use this, you have to connect a Relay(I/O) card that supports swichting the relays/IO by console commands. (Ubuntu driver and software support for the specific usb relay/io cards is needed)


              Even you you bypass the Loxone controll, as long as you use the LMS system the power switching would work.

              The MS4L system will allway sit in the background, checking the powerstates of the single zone and then transferes this states to the miniserver where the miniserver then switches the relays, independant where the LMS control is coming from.




              Zuletzt geändert von Labmaster; 13.01.2020, 17:22.

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